Foo'rum

I am looking but I can only hope for luck...

In the mean time I am working on the railroad network circa 1940 in the BoB french area; I am almost done with the standard gauge, and I begin the metric gauge: it is a nightmare! It is extremely difficult to retrace the old tracks, the re-arrangements of the agricultural estates in the sixties have almost made them disappear like they were never there (it is a lot more difficult to do the same with standard gauge, as these tracks used a lot of earth moving which stays in the landscape)...
So you are let with minute details, names (fortunately station names are known) and marks on 25 000 map, common sense, Google earth and a lot of reasoning, almost km by km...

After that I need to add the K5 tracks and the Belgian tracks and I will be ready to give Oleg a heart attack!

Exhilarating but exhausting...I have spent several dozens of hours so far...

I guess we will have an issue with traction and rolling stock material to model...when I see the network I already have I tell myself this his going to be difficult to not model several units for each network (metric = 1 loco, 1 passenger, 2 freight this would cover properly the material)

JV

Are you saying that you're building 3D models?

Even in Belgium as NMBS type 81:



There's interesting stuff on that site and even a drawing. I wonder if the drawing would be available even in a larger size?
http://users.edpnet.be/Saraan/SaraanMaterieel_S81.html

No I would need to learn 3D Max and Photoshop first...I am working on a KMZ as it is the best way to show the networks tracks.

3D models I intend to do but much later. Right now my forte is in other stuff like looking for very diverse infos (regitration plates, K5, locomotives etc) and airfield locations and photos.

My statement about the traction material is just an opinion...when I see the level of detail OM goes about ground material it is inevitable this question will arise considering how important to the day-to-day civilian and military life the trains were, not mentioning the target aspect!

JV

I just asked them...

You can read my mind

Thanks to my good ol' friend Jagdhund I finally can proceed building a proper tender for the G8.1/040.D Without that construction drawing I've never would have known how the tender's upper side was looking like.

Danke für Deine Mühe, ist aber inzwischen dank Jagdhunds Hilfe nicht mehr nötig Normalien rulez!

Ich frage mich gerade, ob die Trittstufen mit schräger Kante einen besonderen Namen haben *g* Ich nehme an, die sind da damit man bei Nässe nicht seitlich wegrutscht. Oder einfach nur zur Stabilisierung der Plane.

Warum ich mich das frage? Weil mir der detailgrad aufgefallen ist.

Ich denke wegen beidem.

Immer gut, wenn man Vitamin B hat

Inzwischen habe ich einen Skin aufgelegt und die ersten Löcher mit dem Alpha-Brennschneider eingebracht

Zwischendurch eine kurze Passprobe: das sieht gleich viel besser aus!

Some french railway links for your enjoyment:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/ste ... d/pix.html
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/ste ... i/pix.html
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/ste ... t/pix.html
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/ste ... D/pix.html

Some really interesting pictures there, like this one:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/ste ... mg0678.jpg

Tender progress:



Obenrum schaut er schonmal ganz ordentlich aus, nächstes WE kommen Untergestell und Fahrwerke dran.

Sieht toll aus, und so schnell so weit

Wieviele Polys brauchst du für diese Geländer?

Sicher zuviele um sie am CrPr00 zu verwenden, oder?

Du meinst die Handgriffe? So eine Kugel samt Sockel hat 28, zwei davon plus dreikantiger Stange haben dann zusammen 62.

Hat denn der CrPr00-Wagon laut Zeichnung auch solche? Bei Güterwagen mache ich die Handgriffe stets als Plane mit Alpha, bei Personenwagen und Lokomotiven können sie jedoch schon etwas detaillierter sein. Wenn ein Personenwagen jedoch sehr viele solcher Handgriffe hat, dann muss man eben sehen, ob nicht zu viele Poligone dabei draufgehen.

Der 16 C (pr 3 T 16,5) nimmt langsam Gestalt an, es fehlen noch die Radaufhängungen und Federungen:

Nice! A bit too green for Nord 040D however...

Yes, because it isn't a Nord I don't want do change the skin now and I will make a new black one after this one has been finished.

Tender almost ready. Only some really little things left to do:

Very nice!

I do hope we will see a lot of trains in SoW:BoB...including the narrow gauge ones as they had the most beautiful railway lines...
When I see the web made by the various networks in The Nord region (a bit less extensive in West) I wonder what Oleg will do? I have not finished the transcription as a .kmz but what I have already shows how important it was and why the Germans made such an extensive use of it (especially when combining with the airfield locations)!

JV

Better now?



Next task is proper numbering on cabin/tender sides. What should it be like? Red painted sign with white numbers/letters or white letters directly on black hull?

That's great...but remember: green = zamak ident plates, black = painted ident...

ok

btw: look here, a brilliant mechanic in France is building a metal scale model of a 040.D

And another intersting site about model weathering.

Jean-Valéry, do you know what the white dot in the right lower corner of the cabin wall is, as well on the tender? Is that the SNCF logo?



Do I see it right that the number has a red border/shadow?

The same model of the same brand but with better markings (those ones are SNCF Nord region, loco 209); on your photo these are SNCF Est region (loco 582):



The red linings on numbers are very doubtful...poetic license, I think...

On the 209 photo the red fillets are somewhat wrong: they never were present in Nord; the decoration is consistent with SNCF Est, but wrong loco number: they should have kept 582!.

The logo you mentioned is the "TIA" logo for "Traitement Integral Armand" which was a chemical treatment of the water sent to the boiler to keep carbonate content in suspension instead of making deposits and modifying heat behavior of boiler walls so avoiding deformation leaks and costly maintenance.

The logo is actually red on yellow:



However the TIA was introduced only in 1942 and indeed concerned also the 040D...but not for SoW:BoB time period...so no logo!

Amically,

JV

ok so far, thank you for that information. Now we just need a couple of numbers for loco and tender as well. We need them because in game the locos will have different numbers.

we have 040.D.XXX and 16.C.YYY

can you help me to find at least 16 different numbers for XXX and YYY and the names of the shed/station belonging to them?

Thank you in advance!